I’ve compressed the format of Jeff’s post. For more information about Jeff, see his original posting: https://chinarising.puntopress.com/2020/10/22/joan-roelofs-interview-searching-for-what-is-the-good-life-how-can-it-be-attained-for-all-and-who-has-the-power-to-prevent-it-or-make-it-happen-china-rising-radio-sinoland-201022/#comments